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Former Secretary of Homeland Security Jeh Johnson is presenting Sister Norma Pimentel with a leadership award at the annual Concordia Summit Wednesday to recognize her work with refugees and immigrants. Secy. Johnson and Sister Pimentel join Morning Joe to discuss.

See full clip here: https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/jeh-johnson-sending-migrants-to-democratic-states-is-a-political-stunt-148938309578